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PRangerX 03/09/08 10:21 AM

Should Power Rangers attempt continuing casts?
 
I think Power Ranger's formula has become too stale and predictable. They have been following the Sentai route for years now. And many seasons since LR have heavily slaved to the Sentai in a lot of ways. NS and DT did try to be orginal in a lot of ways, especially DT.

I think PR needs to regain its sense of innovation. They need to stop adapting themselves to the Sentai Footage. Instead they should adapt the Sentai footage to their own story. Look at how they were able to tell their own story from MMPR-Lost Galaxy. MMPR season 1 is nothing like Zuyranger. Look at Megaranger and Lost Galaxy. Two Sentai's that aren't space series. Yet they were able to make them about Ranger's in Space. Megaranger at least had some space visuals, Gingamen wasn't set in space at all.

You can tell that NS and DT tried to be innovative. And they were, but I think we should take it even a step father.

I think its time they start going with continuing casts. Why do they have to reset every year? Because the Sentai does it? Thats not neccessarly what PR is. Why not try to do something innovative and keep a Ranger team around for a few seasons. You just have to make the power changes make sense. Which you could if you tell your own story and not slave to the Sentai. I'd like to see them commit to telling a three to five year story. Now I know long term planning is not what PR does. But I am saying plan on doing a three year arch and adapting to things as they go.

NS and DT would have been great series to do this. Unfortinaly NS has the crutch of the Rangers being part of that Ninja School. If they were just regular teens that were recruited to stop Lothor, it would make more sense. DT would actually be perfect for cast continuation. Since they were regular teens in high school. Its more beleivable that they would be able to take tottally unrelated powers. You'd probably have to think outside of the box to adapt Dekaranger to this concept. But it didn't stop old school pr from doing this.

But thats all in the past, as obviously those seasons weren't continued. But there is no reason why they can't take a PR season and start a new continuing arch. Set the Rangers back in High School. That opens up the possibility to do some interesting character stuff. And to tell stories that kids can really relate too.

Poweranimals 03/09/08 03:23 PM

I haven't read your thread, but yes. It should. Things have become stuck in a cycle that will repeat itself year after year. People get sick of the same cast after a while, but I'm starting to get sick of new cast every year. How many Power Rangers have there been now? Probably over 100. It's not as special anymore.

PrimoPiccolo 03/11/08 05:21 PM

Aside from Jackie, I barely trust the staff to tell a cohesive story through one season, let alone link multiple seasons together. While there are definitely casts I'd have preferred to see continue, I enjoy the renewed feeling of watching the same show with a different twist every year. It sucks as far as character development goes, but if I had to sacrifice RJ to get more Hartford, things wouldn't be nearly as much fun as they used to.

red timeforce ranger 03/22/08 01:39 PM

i like see new casts in new pr series every year

Kamen Rider Decade 04/04/08 08:17 AM

With the casts we have been getting of late hell fucking no they should not attempt continuing casts.

Get decent casts like we had in MMPR, Space, TF, then fuck yeah give us continuing casts.

RangerKing 04/06/08 12:06 PM

I would try and continue some select characters rather than continue full casts. For example continuing a mentor for a few seasons.

randy319 05/28/08 09:38 PM

Continuing casts like seasons 1-6 would bring a lot more storylines as well as character development people have talked about.

RangerKing 05/28/08 10:57 PM

Convince any show that practically reinvents itself each year that you should pay people to stay on a show for multiple years.

PowerOnyx 05/28/08 11:20 PM

Disney can't do the series for 1 year without screwing everything completely up. Do you really want them to write a continuing story arc when they themselves can't fill their own plotholes?

If this was Saban I would say Yes. Disney however, Can't keep from dropping the ball on one series.

NO THANKS.

PrimoPiccolo 05/29/08 04:50 AM

Let's remember, people, DISNEY told Kalish to make S.P.D. more episodic than he originally set out to do. If they don't want one season linking itself together, why would they want multiple seasons to do that same thing?

PRangerX 05/29/08 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PrimoPiccolo (Post 31399)
Let's remember, people, DISNEY told Kalish to make S.P.D. more episodic than he originally set out to do. If they don't want one season linking itself together, why would they want multiple seasons to do that same thing?

Yes, its something Disney clearly doesn't want. Like I just said in another thread, they think PR is supposed to be this way. Just because Saban Entertianment happened to do PR that way, during the last few years they owned it.

PrimoPiccolo 05/30/08 02:13 PM

Yet surprisingly, Time Force was more like Timeranger than any of Disney's seasons have been to the Toei originals.

red timeforce ranger 05/30/08 05:41 PM

in timeranger - capt ryuu is real leader of lonaz family

Mr Nobody 06/02/08 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PrimoPiccolo (Post 31399)
Let's remember, people, DISNEY told Kalish to make S.P.D. more episodic than he originally set out to do. If they don't want one season linking itself together, why would they want multiple seasons to do that same thing?

Didn't they KINDA do that with "Forever Red"?

I actually liked that one, at least the 'nostalgic' feel to it, anyway.

Or am I missing the point? :confused:

PrimoPiccolo 06/02/08 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Nobody
Didn't they KINDA do that with "Forever Red"?

I'm talking full seasons, as in if you pick up a random episode of the series you won't be completely confused as to what's going on.

And nobody will argue that you couldn't watch S.P.D. out of order and enjoy it just as much.

PRangerX 06/02/08 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PrimoPiccolo (Post 31417)
Yet surprisingly, Time Force was more like Timeranger than any of Disney's seasons have been to the Toei originals.

Oh yes, the trend started with Saban Entertianment, during the last three or four years of their control. Johnathon Tzachor was big into being close to the Sentai. Disney execs just took this approace has been what PR is. Which isn't true. As it was something different its first several years.

MattEmily 12/08/14 01:45 AM

Re: Should Power Rangers attempt continuing casts?
 
This post will be a response to PRangerX's top post only.


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Originally Posted by PRangerX (Post 36312)
I think Power Ranger's formula has become too stale and predictable. They have been following the Sentai route for years now. And many seasons since LR have heavily slaved to the Sentai in a lot of ways. NS and DT did try to be orginal in a lot of ways, especially DT.

I agree that the formula has gotten a bit stale and predictable and yes they have been slaves to the Sentai for the most part except for Ninja Storm, Dino Thunder and RPM.

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I think PR needs to regain its sense of innovation. They need to stop adapting themselves to the Sentai Footage. Instead they should adapt the Sentai footage to their own story. Look at how they were able to tell their own story from MMPR-Lost Galaxy. MMPR season 1 is nothing like Zuyranger. Look at Megaranger and Lost Galaxy. Two Sentai's that aren't space series. Yet they were able to make them about Ranger's in Space. Megaranger at least had some space visuals, Gingamen wasn't set in space at all.
I agree that it needs to regain its sense of innovation as well as individuality. I agree that instead of adapting the corresponding Sentai season they should just write their own story and use the Sentai footage to adapt to their own story much like how they were able to do so with MMPR, Zeo, Turbo and SPace.
I agree with you with Zyuranger and Megaranger and in regards to the actual season title it's Gingaman.

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You can tell that NS and DT tried to be innovative. And they were, but I think we should take it even a step father.
That they were and it helped that we had Execs that actually cared.

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I think its time they start going with continuing casts. Why do they have to reset every year? Because the Sentai does it? Thats not neccessarly what PR is. Why not try to do something innovative and keep a Ranger team around for a few seasons. You just have to make the power changes make sense. Which you could if you tell your own story and not slave to the Sentai. I'd like to see them commit to telling a three to five year story. Now I know long term planning is not what PR does. But I am saying plan on doing a three year arch and adapting to things as they go.
I actually think it'd be an interesting idea to start with the continuing casts but not as long as we're stuck in the Nick-forced scheduling but I do agree that they should do something different.

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NS and DT would have been great series to do this. Unfortinaly NS has the crutch of the Rangers being part of that Ninja School. If they were just regular teens that were recruited to stop Lothor, it would make more sense. DT would actually be perfect for cast continuation. Since they were regular teens in high school. Its more beleivable that they would be able to take tottally unrelated powers. You'd probably have to think outside of the box to adapt Dekaranger to this concept. But it didn't stop old school pr from doing this.
I agree that it would've been a perfect season to start the continuing storyline with Ninja Storm but because of the whole Ninja Academy thing I think Dino Thunder would have made a lot more sense to start the continuing storyline with.

MattEmily 12/08/14 02:01 AM

Re: Should Power Rangers attempt continuing casts?
 
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Originally Posted by PowerOnyx (Post 37005)
Disney can't do the series for 1 year without screwing everything completely up. Do you really want them to write a continuing story arc when they themselves can't fill their own plotholes?

If this was Saban I would say Yes. Disney however, Can't keep from dropping the ball on one series.

NO THANKS.

To be fair the Saban era was just as bad with plot holes. We still have no clue who Zordon is other than he was a Mentor, had fights with Rita back in the day until she trapped him in his current time warp, he comes from Eltar and he's well known enough as a being that warriors such as Auric and Trey are aware of him.

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Originally Posted by PrimoPiccolo (Post 37029)
Yet surprisingly, Time Force was more like Timeranger than any of Disney's seasons have been to the Toei originals.

That it was but to be fair so was Wild Force which was a Disney season, a big difference between the 2 is that they wound up using a lot of Gaoranger scenes for Toxica whereas there was only 1 Timeranger scene that they wound up using for Nadira.

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Originally Posted by red timeforce ranger (Post 37037)
in timeranger - capt ryuu is real leader of lonaz family

No he wasn't. Don Dolnero (who we know as Gluto) was the leader of the Londarz Family.

Captain Ryuga (the counterpart to our Alex basically) was just misguided because he grew desperate to the point of being willing to do whatever it takes to escape his own death hence why he was the one responsible for sending the V-Commander and V-Rex into the past since he wanted to ensure that he would not be the one that would use the V-Commander and therefore he wouldn't die but he didn't realize that if you change your fate the universe will balance things out.

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Originally Posted by PRangerX (Post 37123)
Oh yes, the trend started with Saban Entertianment, during the last three or four years of their control. Johnathon Tzachor was big into being close to the Sentai. Disney execs just took this approace has been what PR is. Which isn't true. As it was something different its first several years.

Yes the trend started with Saban, even though Space was original there were Sentai elements thrown in there such as the Psycho Rangers... and even though Dark Specter and Astronema were original in Power Rangers there was a plot in which Hinelar was trying to use the Nejirangers to drain the power of his Master in an attempt to destroy him much like Astronema attempted to do to Dark Specter.

Actually the only Disney exec that was like that was Kalish and he was just taking it to heart that his job was only to translate and not to come up with original stories unless he was told to.


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