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Space Seasons 05/24/20 10:36 AM

Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
He was one of the comedic villains in Turbo. Why add him to Space, when the villains were much more serious?

Turbo Black 05/24/20 10:39 AM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
I think its because the original plan was for Divatox to remain as big bad in Space. Dimitria was also going to remain as mentor. Dark Spector was gonna be Exhaus' PR counterpart. Elgar was just a hold over from that plan. For whatever reason they kept him.

Power Red 05/24/20 10:42 AM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
I think its more because they spent a lot of money to make the Elger Costume and wanted to use it again. Plus they didn't have the suits for Ecliptor and Darkconda at first.

Captain Mutiny 05/24/20 11:31 AM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
It reminds me how the original plan was for Zedd and Rita were supposed to be the big bad's in Turbo. In this scenario Divatox would have been in the Astronema role for Space.

Zordon's Legacy 05/24/20 11:45 AM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
It was definitely because they didn't have access to Ecliptor for the first ten episodes. Notice how Elgar's role was heavily scaled back after episode 10? Thats because they received the Ecliptor suit and could use him more. They used Elgar in the first ten episodes to get to that point.

There is a reason Ecliptor was introduced as a monster of the week before showing back up the next episode as a full time henchmen. Which was odder because he was seemingly destroyed. They had to use a lot of tricks to show him in the Dark Fortress in early episodes.

Space also has some production issues really early on. They couldn't even really show the while Dark Fortress in the premiere. Thats why we just go a close up of Astronema.

Turbo Black 05/24/20 12:17 PM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
I still think it is what I mentioned about the original plan being Divatox as the main villian in Space.

Power Red 05/24/20 12:18 PM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
If that was true why would you even keep Elgar then? It makes no sense. The obvious answer is the suit issue. Definitely when it came to Ecliptor.

MattEmily 05/24/20 09:27 PM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zordon's Legacy (Post 77397)
It was definitely because they didn't have access to Ecliptor for the first ten episodes. Notice how Elgar's role was heavily scaled back after episode 10? Thats because they received the Ecliptor suit and could use him more. They used Elgar in the first ten episodes to get to that point.

There is a reason Ecliptor was introduced as a monster of the week before showing back up the next episode as a full time henchmen. Which was odder because he was seemingly destroyed. They had to use a lot of tricks to show him in the Dark Fortress in early episodes.

Space also has some production issues really early on. They couldn't even really show the while Dark Fortress in the premiere. Thats why we just go a close up of Astronema.


I don’t know how valid the production issues are but you are most certainly correct that the issue was likely because they hadn’t gotten the suit for Ecliptor yet since Toei was usually slow with shipping such stuff out.
Out of the original villains which one was the first to get new footage? Not the monsters or the foot soldiers; Putties in this case since I am referring to our original first season.
Rita?
Goldar?
Finster?
Squatt?
Baboo?
Scorpina?

Titanium Steel 05/29/20 09:40 PM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
They just wanted to add comic relief

DinoThunder Purple 05/29/20 09:45 PM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
I never got how Elgar was even Divatox's nephew, They looked nothing alike.

Jetman Blue 05/29/20 09:46 PM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
Most likely he was adopted, actually more likely stolen like Divatox.

PRangerX 05/30/20 10:51 AM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MattEmily (Post 77462)
I don’t know how valid the production issues are but you are most certainly correct that the issue was likely because they hadn’t gotten the suit for Ecliptor yet since Toei was usually slow with shipping such stuff out.
Out of the original villains which one was the first to get new footage? Not the monsters or the foot soldiers; Putties in this case since I am referring to our original first season.
Rita?
Goldar?
Finster?
Squatt?
Baboo?
Scorpina?

Thats tough because so much of season 1 was Zyuranger footage.

Goldar, Rita, Squatt, Babboo , Finster, Scorpina, and Super Putty

MattEmily 05/30/20 10:54 AM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
You would be mostly wrong but you would have been correct if you had Finster last.

Squatt
Baboo
Rita
Scorpina
Finster

Zabitan 05/31/20 12:40 AM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
I guess because they didn't want to adapt that Bibidebi character.

Which I feel they could have just adapted him, and had Derek Stephen Prince voice him, and it would have been the same.

No Green Spandex 05/31/20 10:53 PM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
I was fine with one comic relief villain. The villains were more serious then any season prior. Plus Elgar's importance faded.

MattEmily 05/31/20 10:57 PM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DinoThunder Purple (Post 77570)
I never got how Elgar was even Divatox's nephew, They looked nothing alike.

Yet Master Vile looks like his son; Rito and his daughter; Rita?

DinoThunder Purple 05/31/20 11:15 PM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
Good point, I guess there all adopted or stolen.

Turbo Guy 05/31/20 11:16 PM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
You got to have at least one wacky villains. I am glad Divatox was used a lot too.

Ranger Storm 05/31/20 11:17 PM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
Divatox probably should have been in charge of the Dark Fortress.

Sentai Snob 06/01/20 04:01 PM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
It was a dumb idea.They should have just used the Megaranger villains. So I am against all the original American villains..

Astronema 06/05/20 10:11 PM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
I wasn't a fan of including him. But it wasn't the end of the world. And I guess they had no choice.

Maligore 06/05/20 10:11 PM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
Because Saban was too cheap to make his own Ecliptor and Darkconda costumes.

MMPR Guru 06/07/20 09:34 AM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
They should have brought Goldar back instead.

Countdown to Destruction 06/07/20 04:33 PM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
We don't know what condition the Goldar suit was in. The Elgar suit was newer and made more sense to use. If the Goldar suit was in good condition, we probably would have saw it more in Space. Since they used most of the old suits in Countdown.

Goldar's Revenge 06/07/20 04:34 PM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
The decay of the suits was the whole reason why C2D happened.

Destiny Defeated 06/07/20 04:35 PM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DinoThunder Purple (Post 77570)
I never got how Elgar was even Divatox's nephew, They looked nothing alike.

The UAE loved to kidnap children to raise as their own. Which is probably the darkdest thing that they did.

Karone Zhane 06/07/20 04:36 PM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
We only know Karone was adopted officially.

Astronema 06/07/20 04:38 PM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
I always assumed that Rita, Zedd, and Divatox were abducted too.

Captain Mutiny 06/07/20 04:39 PM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
Well Divatox was diffinitly kidnapped. She was Dimitria's missing sister.

Elgar's Glory 06/07/20 04:44 PM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
Since Divatox was "adopted" its logical to assume her father could be a different specious. Probably the same specious as Elgar. And likely just as annoying, since Momma D had him banished.

Ginger Snap 06/08/20 08:16 AM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
I never thought of that before. You guys are awesome.

Space Seasons 06/08/20 08:18 AM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
I remember being pissed. Because I was like we finally got rid of those corny villains. Turbo was especially bad. But the season worked out in the long run.

MattEmily 06/11/20 09:09 PM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maligore (Post 77883)
Because Saban was too cheap to make his own Ecliptor and Darkconda costumes.

Yup, go ahead and call them cheap when you have zero clue what you are talking about

Make new suits or pay to get the better quality ones shipped from Japan?
I would rather the second option since that way they can’t mess up on the suit like they did with Elgar and Rygog

Quote:

Originally Posted by Countdown to Destruction (Post 77931)
We don't know what condition the Goldar suit was in. The Elgar suit was newer and made more sense to use. If the Goldar suit was in good condition, we probably would have saw it more in Space. Since they used most of the old suits in Countdown.

We saw the suit in the premiere and in CtD so it obviously was doing decent enough then

MMPR Awesome 06/12/20 02:09 AM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
I wonder why they didn't use Goldar more..

Bridge Boom 06/12/20 09:41 PM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
They really should have. i am actually surprised he only had a few brief cameos.

Piccolo's Legacy 06/12/20 09:41 PM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
It would have been cool to have morphed footage of the other Ranger teams battling the UAE.

No Green Spandex 06/13/20 08:28 AM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
Elgar didn't bother me. He was barely in it after the first several episodes anyway.

MattEmily 06/16/20 02:43 AM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MMPR Awesome (Post 78096)
I wonder why they didn't use Goldar more..

this is pretty much why, that suit premiered in 1994 and it was probably on its last legs come Space time

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldar's Revenge (Post 77932)
The decay of the suits was the whole reason why C2D happened.


Scorpina Returns 06/22/20 11:14 AM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
It was just the luck of the draw since Elgar had the suit that was in the best condition. He didn't really do all that much in Space so its not a big deal either way.

Uncle Steve 06/22/20 11:22 AM

Re: Why did they add Elgar to Space?
 
They probably also wanted to add some levity since the villains were played much more serious that season then ever before. Aside from the appearances of Divatox which tended to be more zany.


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